{"id":266,"date":"2025-08-05T15:49:20","date_gmt":"2025-08-05T15:49:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/riseofmilitarywomen.vt.domains\/?page_id=266"},"modified":"2025-12-29T00:21:23","modified_gmt":"2025-12-29T00:21:23","slug":"anne-barlieb","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/riseofmilitarywomen.vt.domains\/index.php\/anne-barlieb\/","title":{"rendered":"Anne Barlieb, MAJ (Ret.)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-f56f613f wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"has-fontsecondary-font-family has-superbfont-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>US Army 2005-2018<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-fontsecondary-font-family has-superbfont-medium-font-size\"><strong>OH-58D Pilot, PSYOP Officer, Strategist<\/strong><\/h2>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\" style=\"margin-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-small)\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"#anne-full\">Go to full interview<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-border-color has-primary-border-color has-global-padding is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-34b0db81 wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\" style=\"border-width:10px;padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-small);padding-right:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-small);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-small);padding-left:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-small)\">\n<h1 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-align-center\">BIOgraphy<\/h1>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-fontsecondary-font-family wp-block-paragraph\">Born in 1981 in Northeastern Pennsylvania, and adopted by her parents, Mary and John Barlieb, Anne grew up in Tobyhanna, PA.&nbsp; Active in sports, arts, music, and the community,&nbsp; Anne was a member of the Coolbaugh Township Volunteer Fire Company and a parishioner at St. Ann&#8217;s Catholic Church where she played the flute regularly for services and special occasions.&nbsp; While in college at Marywood University, Anne worked at Tobyhanna Army Depot as an office clerk for the Directorates of Avionics and Satellite Communications.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-f56f613f wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:45%\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Anne also participated in ROTC at the University of Scranton and completed Airborne School in 2001.&nbsp; Graduated in 2005 with a BA in Criminal Justice and MA in Public Administration, Anne commissioned into the Army and attended flight school where she learned to fly the OH-58D Kiowa Warrior, the Army&#8217;s scout\/attack platform.&nbsp; In 2007-2008, during an 18 month deployment to Iraq in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom with the 4-6 Air Cavalry Squadron (ACS), Anne served as a platoon leader and air mission commander flying close air support missions and providing convoy security in Northern Iraq, Mosul and Talafar. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In 2009, she transferred to Psychological Operations (PSYOPS) with her then husband and fellow Army Officer. Married for five years while on opposite deployment cycles, they rarely saw each other.&nbsp; Shortly after their branch transfer and co-location at Ft. Bragg (now Ft. Liberty), the marriage dissolved. Anne then deployed to Qatar in support of Operation New Dawn for eight months and upon her return began experiencing health issues.&nbsp; After an arduous, year-long diagnostic process, a golf-ball sized pituitary tumor required an emergency surgery in 2011. Three years later, Anne graduated from the Command and General Staff College (CGSC) in Ft. Leavenworth, KS.&nbsp; While there, her health deteriorated again. In January 2015, after a very violent suicide attempt, Anne was MEDEVACd to Walter Reed where doctors diagnosed 13 medical conditions, including nerve damage and regrowth of the pituitary tumor, making her unfit for continued military service.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:55%\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"929\" src=\"https:\/\/riseofmilitarywomen.vt.domains\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/Screenshot-2025-08-05-at-11.51.25-AM-1024x929.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-272\" srcset=\"https:\/\/riseofmilitarywomen.vt.domains\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/Screenshot-2025-08-05-at-11.51.25-AM-1024x929.png 1024w, https:\/\/riseofmilitarywomen.vt.domains\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/Screenshot-2025-08-05-at-11.51.25-AM-300x272.png 300w, https:\/\/riseofmilitarywomen.vt.domains\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/Screenshot-2025-08-05-at-11.51.25-AM-768x697.png 768w, https:\/\/riseofmilitarywomen.vt.domains\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/Screenshot-2025-08-05-at-11.51.25-AM.png 1102w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignleft size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1019\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/riseofmilitarywomen.vt.domains\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/Screenshot-2025-08-05-at-11.57.05-AM-1019x1024.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-280\" style=\"width:305px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/riseofmilitarywomen.vt.domains\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/Screenshot-2025-08-05-at-11.57.05-AM-1019x1024.png 1019w, https:\/\/riseofmilitarywomen.vt.domains\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/Screenshot-2025-08-05-at-11.57.05-AM-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/riseofmilitarywomen.vt.domains\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/Screenshot-2025-08-05-at-11.57.05-AM-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/riseofmilitarywomen.vt.domains\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/Screenshot-2025-08-05-at-11.57.05-AM-768x772.png 768w, https:\/\/riseofmilitarywomen.vt.domains\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/Screenshot-2025-08-05-at-11.57.05-AM.png 1194w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1019px) 100vw, 1019px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">After a grueling three-year medical board process, Anne retired in 2018 with 14 years of honorable service. Through a cascade of miraculous synchronicities that same year, she was reunited with three biological sisters and found herself on a most unexpected, deeply personal path of healing and self-discovery. Since then, Anne dedicates much of her time to mentoring service members, veterans, and family members with her experience-based approach to complex medical issues, PTSD, family dynamics, suicide, and non-combat related trauma. When she is not at Walter Reed at appointments or mentoring, she can be found writing in one of many community writing groups during the week; taking a daily walk, nap, and bath; reclined in her heated massage chair watching the bird feeder on her balcony and feeling very grateful to be living her best life. In 14 years of service, Anne received the Defense Meritorious Service Medal, Air Medal, Army Commendation Medal, Army Achievement Medal, Parachutist Badge, Aviator Badge, and Combat Action Badge.&nbsp;<br><br><\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-mono-2-background-color has-background has-global-padding is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-549d9fa3 wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\" style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall);padding-right:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall);padding-left:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall)\">\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-contrast-light-color has-text-color has-link-color wp-elements-1\">Career and Family Transitions<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-f56f613f wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Anne Barlieb, Career and Family Transitions\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/fYGDjM6g4oc?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-vertically-aligned-center is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"has-contrast-light-color has-text-color has-link-color wp-elements-2 wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;My addiction was working out and workaholism, which is almost a worse addiction to have, because it&#8217;s not as criminalized or criticized. I mean, workaholism in our culture is celebrated; you&#8217;re considered productive and useful and wonderful, but I was really working myself, both physically in the gym and at work\u2014 So we had a lot in common, in terms of our dysfunction, but it expressed itself differently.&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-global-padding is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-contrast-light-color has-primary-background-color has-text-color has-background has-link-color wp-elements-3\" style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall);padding-right:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall);padding-left:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall)\">The Design of the Universe<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-f56f613f wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-pullquote has-text-align-center has-contrast-light-color has-primary-background-color has-text-color has-background has-link-color wp-elements-4\" style=\"margin-top:0;margin-right:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall);padding-right:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall);padding-left:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall)\"><blockquote><p>&#8220;So like war, and I went through that whole, kind of, arc where I wanted to change everything about the war, and it should have never happened, and everything went terribly, horribly, completely wrong. And then through that therapy, I came to accept that, no, everything is going completely and totally perfectly right, even if I don&#8217;t exactly understand it. So when I meet cadets like here and have an opportunity to talk to them, I&#8217;m grateful to be past that arc where I&#8217;m much\u2014 in a greater position of acceptance and wisdom. I don&#8217;t discourage anyone from wanting to join the service and go to war if it&#8217;s necessary.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed aligncenter is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Anne Barlieb, The Design of the Universe\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/p8pJBKUjGt0?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-global-padding is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" style=\"border-width:10px;padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall);padding-right:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall);padding-left:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall)\">Financial Incentives<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Anne Barlieb, Financial Incentives\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/WDLYm4ZVduA?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-contrast-light-color has-mono-2-background-color has-text-color has-background has-link-color wp-elements-5 has-global-padding is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-549d9fa3 wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\" style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall);padding-right:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall);padding-left:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall)\">\n<p class=\"has-contrast-light-color has-text-color has-link-color wp-elements-6 wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;It&#8217;s funny, when I was a captain in Iraq and I was making the most money I&#8217;d ever made in my life, Congress came out with this appropriation or bill that if a service member was over their orders, any month over a year&#8217;s worth of orders, they were going to do a thousand-dollar payment. So I was getting my regular captain pay, which I got promoted in theater, so that was a pay up. I was getting hazardous duty pay, I was getting flight pay, I was getting a thousand dollars because we were there for eighteen months, a thousand dollars a month extra. I was making more money in my life than I&#8217;d ever made before, and when I got home and I was bragging to my father about how great it felt to be making all this money, he sat down with his yellow legal pad, and he ran the numbers for me and asked what hours I was working, and he figured this out to something like\u2014 it came out to, seriously, like $3.75 an hour is like what the hourly rate was for this, and it burst my bubble in a big way. Now, he didn&#8217;t take into account the medical insurance, and that&#8217;s a whole thing, and there&#8217;s many other unquantifiable financial incentives to the military, unquestionably. But when I think about what I was expected to do, and the shifts\u2014 You know, we would run thirty-six hour shifts in the TOC [Tactical Operations Center] when there was direct actions going on.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-contrast-light-color has-text-color has-link-color wp-elements-7 wp-block-paragraph\">Some people could argue, &#8216;You can never pay service members enough for what they do, there&#8217;s no amount of money that you could pay,&#8217; but I feel like, certainly, the incentive should be greater for what we expect, for what service members have to do, and that&#8217;s not to complain about what we have; like I said, I&#8217;m very grateful. I&#8217;m not saying that from an ungrateful place, I&#8217;m saying it from a very grateful place and acknowledging that it should be more.&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-global-padding is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-border-color has-primary-border-color\" style=\"border-width:10px;padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall);padding-right:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall);padding-left:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall)\">The Most Life-Changing Experience<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-f56f613f wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:25%\">\n<p class=\"has-border-color has-primary-border-color wp-block-paragraph\" style=\"border-width:10px;padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall);padding-right:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall);padding-left:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall)\">&#8220;And when I thought about those two trajectories kind of converging in this indescribable experience, and they say about how there&#8217;s no greater sacrifice than to lay your life down for someone. And on a spiritual plane, when I think about that little boy and the sacrifice\u2014and I&#8217;m not saying that he knowingly did it, or if he was given the choice that he would have volunteered to do that\u2014but what it allowed me to do, going through that experience and processing it and thinking about it and praying about it and the realization that I&#8217;ve had since, it&#8217;s quite an incredible thing to consider that my life orchestrated things in such a way to give me realizations and life experience that\u2014 and really, ultimately, wisdom.&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:50%\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed aligncenter is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Anne Barlieb, &quot;The Most Life Changing Experience&quot;\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/6munOp-eh3M?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:25%\">\n<p class=\"has-border-color has-primary-border-color wp-block-paragraph\" style=\"border-width:10px;padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall);padding-right:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall);padding-left:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall)\">&#8220;They say, and I think I mentioned it before, the mark of a life well lived is one in which the liver of it, the one living it, changes fundamentally, and if I had to name one experience that fundamentally changed who I am, it&#8217;s that experience. And it still torments me, I&#8217;ve got severe combat-related treatment-resistant PTSD. I have flashbacks. It&#8217;s difficult to live with, many of the things, but it changed\u2014 It fundamentally changed the way that I orient myself to life, my perception, the way I understand things. It&#8217;s kind of like on a multidimensional, very metaphorical, poetic. . . I think only the most intense life experiences allow us to straddle that effectively, and war does that. War certainly has that effect, if someone&#8217;s willing to do the labor required to get themselves to that point, which is the hardest work there is.&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-global-padding is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-contrast-light-color has-mono-2-background-color has-text-color has-background has-link-color wp-elements-8\" style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall);padding-right:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall);padding-left:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall)\">Invisibility<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns has-mono-2-background-color has-background is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-f56f613f wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Anne Barlieb, Invisibility\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/YMP0RxQOhZM?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"has-contrast-light-color has-text-color has-link-color wp-elements-9 wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Jason A. Higgins: <\/strong>A lot of women veterans have expressed in one way or the other feelings of invisibility. Has that ever been relevant to your experience?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-contrast-light-color has-text-color has-link-color wp-elements-10 wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Anne Barlieb:<\/strong> I think it&#8217;s an illusion to think that we can really see each other.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-contrast-light-color has-text-color has-link-color wp-elements-11 wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Anne Barlieb:<\/strong> There&#8217;s three stages of care or concern. It&#8217;s sympathy, kind of being the most rudimentary; empathy\u2014 so sympathy is feeling bad for somebody; empathy, which is kind of commiserating with being on the same field; but then, compassion&#8217;s kind of the gold standard. And compassion would say, I can&#8217;t put myself in your shoes, I can&#8217;t see\u2014 I can&#8217;t really see you. And from that standpoint, yeah, but, I mean, that&#8217;s the thing that we all have in common is that we&#8217;re invisible, and something that\u2014 I don&#8217;t know, being a woman in the military never really resonated with me. You know, a lot of times, people\u2014 I mean, men have just as many issues, I think, when it comes to the human condition\u2014 it&#8217;s not to minimize the women&#8217;s experience or anything like that, or minorities, or anything, I don&#8217;t want to discount that \u2014but the real fundamental truth is that we are all equal. PTSD, I like to say, is the least common denominator in the human experience. Nobody, I don&#8217;t care how good life looks, I don&#8217;t care, you&#8217;re not going to convince me that there&#8217;s not torment, tragedy, and unthinkable circumstances. That&#8217;s something that we all have in common, period . . .<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-border-color has-primary-border-color has-global-padding is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\" style=\"border-width:10px\">\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-mono-2-color has-contrast-light-background-color has-text-color has-background has-link-color wp-elements-12\" style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall);padding-right:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall);padding-left:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall)\">Finding Metaphorical Meaning<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\" style=\"margin-top:0;margin-right:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall);margin-bottom:0;margin-left:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall)\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Anne Barlieb, Finding Metaphorical Meaning\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/Xbmv8VDLpZw?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center wp-block-paragraph\" style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall);padding-right:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall);padding-left:var(--wp--preset--spacing--superbspacing-xsmall)\">&#8220;It&#8217;s like operating on multi-dimension quantum field consciousness that, okay, there&#8217;s the literal thing of black-wearing-pajama ISIS, and I could tell you briefs about the characteristics of that and what their TTPs are, but then fifteen years later, I get introduced to this whole new concept that I didn&#8217;t even see coming about Isis and this goddess, and I think, &#8220;Well, now, what does that mean if I was at war with a goddess named Isis? And what am I to learn about that and to have discovered? 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